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#2476 2018-12-15 23:38:55

Dobbie03
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Who would pay 250 Euros for an almost 5 year old computer?  That's mental. That's like $600 NZD.


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#2477 2018-12-16 00:17:42

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

Dobbie03 wrote:

Who would pay 250 Euros for an almost 5 year old computer?  That's mental. That's like $600 NZD.

Well, I want it for <100€ because I'm looking for an almost noiseless, very compact home server, don't want to build one myself, am overwhelmed by the heaps of junk on sale, and in terms of build quality (used one at a job) and limited expandability (fits 2 hard drives/SSDs) this little box is really amazing. Lots of display outputs, Iris graphics, gigabit ethernet + Thunderbolt. Drawbacks are that you cannot replace or upgrade the RAM (it's Apple). Also, I actually like OSX and wouldn't mind having one machine around.

The market somehow agrees that these are worth 500€-900€ new and up to 250€ used…IMO because of the RAM issue and lack of repairability anything over 75€ for a used device is overpriced.


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#2478 2018-12-16 07:32:11

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

@twoion, I get why you would want to pay around 100.  But what is up with peoples fascination with anything Apple and paying big dollars for semi/obsolete gear?


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#2479 2018-12-16 09:12:47

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twoion wrote:

70€ for a used 2014 Mac Mini 24 hours before auction end.

250€ for a used 2014 Mac Mini 12 hours before auction end.

Why do people want to prevent me from buying this for 100€? If everybody who bid would have just added 5€, we'd be at 95€ only.

people just don't know how to use ebay (and similar sites).
it's logical that you never start bidding until just before the offer closes, and never more than absolutely necessary.
(afaik auctions close at the specified time or some time after the last bid)
good thing with buying electronics: the market is flooded, and if not this one, then there's surely another one. cheap.

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#2480 2018-12-17 11:55:43

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nearly 3 weeks on the wagon, ive read it takes just 21 days to break a habit, tomorrow will be 21!


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#2481 2018-12-17 14:27:28

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Never read that, but I've been on that wagon for 32 years 11 months.  Congratulations.


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#2482 2018-12-18 12:07:54

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^ Thanks Sector11, long way to go yet i suppose and the 21 days is probably folk lore 21 months would be a better measure id say. Im going to do something different for Christmas day, not drinking or eating myself into oblivion anymore, might have lunch and then go for a hike i think.

nearly 33 years for you.... i must say very well done to you also merry xmas as well.


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#2483 2019-01-02 13:23:10

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Firefox on the way to becoming adware…

Mozilla: Ad on Firefox’s new tab page was just another experiment (https://venturebeat.com/2018/12/31/mozi … xperiment/)

Remember to turn off the "snippets" anti-feature in the preferences page.


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#2484 2019-01-02 14:18:32

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OH (Censored)!!!!


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#2485 2019-01-02 16:25:07

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glasses Oh god ... I'm happy Palemoon user, what a relief.  cool


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#2486 2019-01-02 17:07:15

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I guess Mozilla's recent ProtonVPN tie-up (only limited to US users, iirc) didn't bring in as much $$ as they wanted.

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#2487 2019-01-14 17:18:32

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AWS, MongoDB, and the Economic Realities of Open Source: https://stratechery.com/2019/aws-mongod … en-source/

Worth a read. The Linux enthusiast crowd and those who insist on "FOSS" software is taking a LOT for granted, esp. the "free" as in "free beer" crowd who don't like to pay for their PDF reader.

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#2488 2019-01-15 02:48:10

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The article points out that the music industry has bounced back, big time (though, IMO, with vastly inferior music compared to the 'popular/commercial' music leading up to the '99 crash).

Now this...

It’s the same situation with software: bits on a disk are fundamentally free — just ask Richard Stallman. In his seminal essay Why Software Should Be Free Stallman wrote:

    A copy of a program has nearly zero marginal cost (and you can pay this cost by doing the work yourself), so in a free market, it would have nearly zero price. A license fee is a significant disincentive to use the program. If a widely useful program is proprietary, far fewer people will use it.

    It is easy to show that the total contribution of a program to society is reduced by assigning an owner to it. Each potential user of the program, faced with the need to pay to use it, may choose to pay, or may forego use of the program. When a user chooses to pay, this is a zero-sum transfer of wealth between two parties. But each time someone chooses to forego use of the program, this harms that person without benefiting anyone. The sum of negative numbers and zeros must be negative.

    But this does not reduce the amount of work it takes to develop the program. As a result, the efficiency of the whole process, in delivered user satisfaction per hour of work, is reduced.

... well, quite frankly that pisses me off. Arrogant programmer bull manure. I'm harmed because I didn't choose your software? Maybe I just don't want to pay to waste my time on Candy Crush. Maybe I have no use for your compiler and other tools because YOU DIDN'T WRITE A FRIGGING KERNEL!!! And learn how to name things, 'guh-new' is 'gu-Odd flipping awful, feet-callous eater.

/Stallman rant

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#2489 2019-01-15 11:31:41

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-46873526

China's Moon mission sees first seeds sprout

It marks the first time any biological matter has grown on the Moon, and is being seen as a significant step towards long-term space exploration.

Great news.

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#2490 2019-01-15 19:33:45

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^ i heard this on DLF today, right after an article where they've succesfully harvested 270kg of vegetables in the Antarctis under near-space-like conditions (a closed container with only artificial light).
on one hand it's still a big step from antarctical conditions on earth to moon conditions, but the cotton sprouts were only very small and few, and also grown in a closed container, so I'm not sure which is the bigger news...

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#2491 2019-01-15 23:08:19

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Whomever was offended by my lack of tasteful language in my rant, I apologize. No personal offense was intended. I use salty language IRL and have used it in Off Topic (and probably elsewhere) before, but as a forum Moderator and BL Team Member you are correct to remind me of decorum.

I've replaced the expletives in the post with less-harsh language. Thanks!

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#2492 2019-01-16 14:47:47

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hhh wrote:

Whomever was offended by my lack of tasteful language in my rant, I apologize. No personal offense was intended. I use salty language IRL and have used it in Off Topic (and probably elsewhere) before, but as a forum Moderator and BL Team Member you are correct to remind me of decorum.

I've replaced the expletives in the post with less-harsh language. Thanks!

That's some auto-censorship you've got there. smile
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#2493 2019-01-16 20:09:01

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^Haha ... misko, you must be from one of the former Yu country? I'm from Croatia, btw  wink


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#2494 2019-01-17 15:07:33

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The Creeping IT Apocalypse

https://forrestbrazeal.com/2019/01/16/c … pocalypse/

Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18930781

So better work on something that's unique and proprietary to the company. If it's IT. But what else is a 'safe' job anymore between doctor and soldier? Not much.

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#2495 2019-01-17 18:23:08

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iMBeCil wrote:

^Haha ... misko, you must be from one of the former Yu country?

Could be. wink

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